Years in the past, when the Duggar family was still on TLC with their ... And Counting display (it ranged between 17 and 19 kids during those years), their family friends the Bates frequently seemed as well.
In fact, Gil and Kelly Jo Bates even earned their own reality collection alongside the Duggars. The families had the same selection of children for a time, and had identical non secular ideas, so it appeared a really perfect alignment.
Many fans also was hoping that some of the Bates and Duggar youngsters would wind up married. Yet that hasn't happened, and some suspect the Duggars' public troubles to be the explanation why.
Though Bringing Up Bates ended after ten seasons (a decision made by means of the family), the status of their friendship with the Duggars wasn't so obviously ended.
Do the Bates and Duggar families still get along, or have they reduce ties since the loss of life of the Duggars' truth collection and bad publicity surrounding Josh Duggar?
The Bates And Duggars Were Childhood Friends
As viewers of nineteen Kids and Counting will recall, each the Bates and Duggars had kind of the same choice of kids when the Duggars road-tripped over to help with some renovation projects.
Like the Duggars, the Bates needed to increase their home to deal with their then-growing family.
But as the years went on, the connection between the Duggars and Bates was once less visual. This was, partially, because of the undeniable fact that the Duggars' truth collection started focusing more on the older Duggars' lives, with many of them getting married and moving out of the circle of relatives home.
Of direction, not all the Duggars are in a rush to court and wed; Jana hasn't married yet, and fans have a few ideas as to why not. But it does not seem to be as a result of there is no Bates available.
Did Any Of The Duggars Court The Bates?
There have been rumors that a few of the Bates kids might be dating the Duggars. However, none of the ones rumors ever was fact; no Duggar has married a Bates, so far.
It also doesn't appear they have got ever courted, the Duggars' model of "dating." There have been rumors that Lawson Bates used to be as soon as dating Jana, but no matter their dating history might had been, it ended when Lawson married his now-wife in May 2022.
As it seems, many of the Duggars actually attended the wedding; one fan claimed they saw Jim Bob "hanging out" with the groom's circle of relatives.
James, Jason, Jana, John-David and his wife Abbie, and Gracie were all reportedly in attendance as well.
Gil Bates Appeared To Condemn The Duggars (Or At Least Josh)
In 2021, Gil Bates (who is a pastor) gave a Father's Day sermon that some suspect was once a dig at Jim Bob Duggar. Of path, this preceded Lawson's nuptials, so most likely the sermon was misinterpreted?
As Cafe Mom noted, the sermon was about "reprobate fathers," which refers to other folks/dads who are "unprincipled to the point that God looks on them unfavorably."
A few selection quotes from the sermon had heads turning; Gil said, "If you're dealing around with trash and perversion, you need to get right" with the next energy.
He also famous that anybody who does not will finally end up in jail.
To followers of the Duggars who know that Jim Bob has continued to get up for Josh and apparently refuses to confess his son has executed any mistaken, the message does seem to be directed at Jim Bob.
However, the Bates have no longer particularly said anything about the Duggars, up to now, so it is natural hypothesis at this level.
For their phase, many of the Duggars have also condemned Josh, albeit no longer as harshly as the public has. But for the reason that some Duggars attended a Bates wedding ceremony in 2022, it does not appear to be there is a important rift between the families.
Further evidence? Carlin and Joy's friendship.
Carlin Bates And Joy-Anna Duggar Are Reportedly Still BFFs
While all the youngsters played together all through Bates-Duggar crossovers, it turns out Carlin Stewart (née Bates) and Joy-Anna Forsyth (née Duggar) solid a robust friendship.
In 2021, TV Shows Acereported that the two were reunited after a while aside; Carlin resides in Tennessee while Joy lives in Arkansas.
At the time, some fanatics speculated that Joy was pregnant, pondering she sought after to shuttle to inform her BFF in particular person. Carlin was expecting at the time; her second kid used to be born in March 2022.
Pregnancy hypothesis apart, it's transparent that Joy and Carlin have maintained a friendship despite a imaginable divide between their families.
But given that Joy had already seemed to be distancing herself from the family (by way of leaving the Duggar reboot Counting On earlier than its cancellation), in all probability she's more on the aspect of the Bates — if there really are sides, first of all.
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